tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post8211627972136855315..comments2023-09-10T07:23:44.680-07:00Comments on LEAVING ALEX JONESTOWN: CPS Kidnapping and Persecution of Oath Keepers?S.M. Elliotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13512630781945959680noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-90307572793866288482010-10-27T02:42:40.566-07:002010-10-27T02:42:40.566-07:00Well actually you did rip into me for making a mis...Well actually you did rip into me for making a mistake, even after I corrected it here in the comments.S.M. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512630781945959680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-86210578755402216232010-10-21T12:09:37.438-07:002010-10-21T12:09:37.438-07:00Oops- should have said scrubbed and pruned rather ...Oops- should have said scrubbed and pruned rather than whitewalling.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-68106983364780700442010-10-21T12:08:10.498-07:002010-10-21T12:08:10.498-07:00No one can prove anything about what you wrote con...No one can prove anything about what you wrote concerning Cooper, because it's now gone. That's blog cheating. You cheated. Most people are nice and won't rip into someone for making a mistake. Rather than acknowledging your errors with a retraction, you whitewalled and labelled this a distraction. That's cheating 101.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-40112798026835706442010-10-15T12:15:14.852-07:002010-10-15T12:15:14.852-07:00Thanks for the post, Elliott. I caught part of th...Thanks for the post, Elliott. I caught part of this while tuning into the rebroadcast the other night, and I had no idea what to make of it. Jones even went on to use this incident as a means to plug his "moneybomb" and to talk up the overriding importance of his "transmission", calling his show the most important thing out there before, in my opinion, feigning a headache and airing a Ron Paul speech.Andrew Cruzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15600496754671215895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-76598818330649695042010-10-14T16:53:45.780-07:002010-10-14T16:53:45.780-07:00No, I'm not "Guns 'n' God" w...No, I'm not "Guns 'n' God" with a Scarface avatar. ;D<br />G 'n' G stole an early version of my squalene post, added a few things to it, and posted it as his own.S.M. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512630781945959680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-509144322390279782010-10-14T06:39:02.018-07:002010-10-14T06:39:02.018-07:00http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message90...http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message905460/pg1<br /><br />Is this you or someone posing as you? Its your writings, but unattributed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-58144605911953547112010-10-13T08:11:13.514-07:002010-10-13T08:11:13.514-07:00Or tobacco?
Cooper had the right idea.....Or tobacco?<br /><br />Cooper had the right idea.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-91494030798015456632010-10-13T07:55:19.298-07:002010-10-13T07:55:19.298-07:00"I have seen too many lives destroyed by drug..."I have seen too many lives destroyed by drugs to have any fond feelings for pushers or enablers, and I won't apologize for that."<br /><br />What about alcohol?Russellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-74167401866738516322010-10-12T16:48:41.816-07:002010-10-12T16:48:41.816-07:00I wrote that I wasn't surprised by the removal...I wrote that I wasn't surprised by the removal of Cooper's son, not that I approved. As I wrote here in the comments, I don't even know why the child was removed (and neither does anyone else who has commented on the case - it's all speculative in nature). <br /><br />I'm not freaked by the Oathkeepers thing because I am confident that Oathkeepers will be shown to not be a militia group, and/or the issue will be nullified as child endangerment, if Irish has a competent lawyer. Then the case will rest solely on the abuse allegations, which should have been the case from the start. <br /><br />Now you'll all have to stew in your righteous indignation over my drug comments by yourselves. I have things to do.S.M. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512630781945959680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-79294334671020116472010-10-12T13:24:56.180-07:002010-10-12T13:24:56.180-07:00Removing but not retracting is retracting.
You ...Removing but not retracting is retracting.<br /><br /> <br />You seemed to welcome Cooper losing his kid, due to his public service which you termed his 'illegal activity,' which wasn't so much about helping people help themselves to drugs as much as it was about keeping law officers on the straight and narrow, and protecting the rights of the accused or soon to be accused, in some cases. The raid on Cooper was misdemeanor based. which wasn't right. Cooper tried to raise awareness about the illegal tactics cops use to prosecute the corrupt and futile 'war on drugs.' Making those phone calls might not have been wise or lawful, but thousands of police threatening people, lying to people, setting them up, etc. is a deep corrosive rot on our society. Cooper was charged with possession of a very small amount of pot- whoopee. you still persist in your delight over this, as it seems to help your argument- in your mind.<br /><br />The Trish- Irish case is odd- the presumption of innocence seems to have been tossed out-this is not right. Maybe the kids need to be removed , I don't know.<br /><br /> But it is a very serious thing to use someones political associations or beliefs as part of an official reason to snatch children- this is what was done, we've seen the report. If They are unfit for other more legit reasons, thats different, but don't go and write up a child confiscation order citing Oath Keepers, gun ownership /2nd amendment adherence, etc., -that is bad precedence and blatant political persecution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-67314645760666152062010-10-12T11:34:24.182-07:002010-10-12T11:34:24.182-07:00"Stewart Rhodes, the founder of Oathkeepers, ..."Stewart Rhodes, the founder of Oathkeepers, has a much more balanced and rational take on the case, as an article re-posted at Infowars shows."<br /><br />Who would've thought it? Jones jumped right on this one though.Paulhttp://www.youtube.com/nwoisbunknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-46589880033257405652010-10-11T23:19:26.361-07:002010-10-11T23:19:26.361-07:00P.S. I'm removing the Cooper paragraph because...P.S. I'm removing the Cooper paragraph because it is distracting readers from the germane issue, which is that the Irish/Taylor case is not a clear-cut instance of political persecution at this time. But please be aware that Jones' reporting on the Cooper case was inaccurate. CPS was not responsible. See http://trueslant.com/stephenwebster/2010/05/03/fox-news-quotes-my-reporting-on-barry-cooper-and-gets-it-wrong/<br /><br />Instructing people how to use/hide/distribute drugs is not illegal in Texas, so long as you're not actively participating (though Cooper was charged with possession). <br /><br />As with the Taylor/Irish case, no one seems to have a clear idea of why his three children (a stepson and two daughters) were removed. Pot people say it's because of his videos. Jones, Cooper himself, and others say he was framed because of his high-profile busts.S.M. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512630781945959680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-52000566042694007972010-10-11T23:03:56.324-07:002010-10-11T23:03:56.324-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.S.M. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512630781945959680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-87941889396447547622010-10-11T22:07:51.602-07:002010-10-11T22:07:51.602-07:00I believe Joan Crawford was abusive, at least to h...I believe Joan Crawford was abusive, at least to her two oldest children. Her daughter's account is entirely consistent with the emotional abuse meted out by parents who have been abused themselves and feel a need to control every aspect of their environments. Sometimes these parents mellow with age (or the abuse abates as the child becomes too old to dominate), so it's possible that Crawford's two younger daughters denied she was abusive because they had not experienced or witnessed any of the abuse. <br /><br />This post contains more of my opinion than the average post, but so far as I know I have accurately relayed the details of the case as reported by Jones, Irish and Taylor, and the Concord Monitor. If I have misreported something, tell me and it will be corrected. But if you're simply sore that I don't approve of aiding and abetting drug use (whether that's criminal or not), there's nothing I can do about that. I have seen too many lives destroyed by drugs to have any fond feelings for pushers or enablers, and I won't apologize for that.S.M. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512630781945959680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-41237564313911762592010-10-11T08:01:03.198-07:002010-10-11T08:01:03.198-07:00It's not a "crime" to "aid"...It's not a "crime" to "aid" drug use and distribution, it's the war on drugs itself that is the crime. Your fascist views only serve to lend more credence to Alex Jones. Good job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-78681629028157533152010-10-11T06:37:48.239-07:002010-10-11T06:37:48.239-07:00Basically S.M. Elliot has no problem making up thi...Basically S.M. Elliot has no problem making up things if it serves her overall purpose of slamming Alex Jones. There's no need to ever make things up. She did the same thing with her unfounded attack on Joan Crawford. MeThinks someone is afflicted with a case of closed-minded debunkerness. A healthy skeptism is good, but this is turning into something else. At least have the dignity to admit when you are wrong. Or maybe you like sticking up for corrupt police. It took me twenty seconds to figure out what "illegal activity" you accused Cooper of. He's actually stopped doing that exact sting with the suspicious bag trick. A guy goes after bad cops, and you think he deserves to lose his kids for that. Perhaps he was somewhat guilty of something, as in producing hoax police reports. His intentions were good. He wasn't aiding and abetting drug use or whatever you wrote, and you look like you put no more than five seconds into researching that part of your entry. Your last comment makes me wonder how often you do this.Tokyo Shemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764134901412321022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-34378182576812630602010-10-11T02:58:57.690-07:002010-10-11T02:58:57.690-07:00Well, who knows? Maybe in Texas it's just perf...Well, who knows? Maybe in Texas it's just perfectly A-OK to aid and abet drug use and distribution. Kind of like those books that tell you how to make homemade silencers or stalk people without getting caught, it's not illegal because you're not *actually* committing the crimes yourself, you're just telling other people how to pull them off successfully.S.M. Elliotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13512630781945959680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-46771513030113567632010-10-10T12:29:13.320-07:002010-10-10T12:29:13.320-07:00Then again, Texas is quite the police state...Then again, Texas is quite the police state...Russellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-69071226929822461042010-10-10T12:03:49.598-07:002010-10-10T12:03:49.598-07:00I'm unfamiliar with Cooper and one point of th...I'm unfamiliar with Cooper and one point of the article is unclear to me: in what "illegal activity" was he engaged? <br />I don't think that hosting these seminars would be illegal.Russellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-32054039503424218842010-10-10T11:37:54.401-07:002010-10-10T11:37:54.401-07:00Cooper ran stings on corrupt police officers, expo...Cooper ran stings on corrupt police officers, exposing them for the power mad scum most of them are. The police retaliated with a misdemeanor raid on Coopers home...they found a tiny amount of pot...I think his stepson later went to visit his biological dad and never came back, the father had regained custody after hearing about the raid and the 'evil' Cooper and his Kopbuster program.<br /><br /> Wikipedia says CPS stole or took the kid, with no real explanation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-71689919987527762010-10-10T11:17:10.476-07:002010-10-10T11:17:10.476-07:00You said that,given Barry Coopers current illegal ...You said that,given Barry Coopers current illegal activity, you are not surprised that Coopers child was stolen. <br /><br />What was Cooper doing? Recording a legal defense self-help seminar against unjust laws and overzealous cops? Why would that cause anyone to be not exactly surprised that he got his kid stolen? <br />I dont get it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647145640661836989.post-86416491756694478612010-10-09T23:11:59.132-07:002010-10-09T23:11:59.132-07:00Are you sure it's illegal to hold a seminar ca...Are you sure it's illegal to hold a seminar called 'Never Get Busted Again'? Sounds like pretty mild stuff--and certainly not a good reason to take a man's children out of his care.John Sealnoreply@blogger.com